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- truskaweczka
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Overall, this situation is just a joke. In the game, you will not see the cost of 1 gold for building upgrades. They will be higher. There will also be disappointment because, once again, the event does not look as promised. Example.
The cost of upgrading the forum from level 41 to 42 is 81,451,019,928 gold, including a 30% discount for Centurions in the guild.
The event is coming, so we are counting on a 35% discount, similar to training, so: forum 41 -> 42 level costs 40,725,509,964.
In fact: forum 41 -> 42 costs 52,943,162,953 during the event.
The difference is huge, though. It is impossible to collect almost 13 billion gold in a short time. The contribution was announced, people paid conscientiously, and yet the amount turns out to be insufficient for the expansion. The event was announced practically a month in advance, but it is not what was promised and is misleading.
A 35% discount on guild expansion costs is, in practice, a 24.5% discount on guild expansion. Disappointment. Huge. Nothing works as it should.
Will there be compensation? I doubt it.
A simple apology? We'll see.
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I agree with above, the event 35% discount is calculated from the discounted price after centurion discount had been applied, not from the full price, resulting in big difference in what was expected.
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I hereby submit an official complaint regarding the method of calculating discounts during the current event. As a community of players, we were misled by official announcements, which led to measurable losses of time and resources.
Analysis of the problem using the Forum as an example (41 -> 42):
Base cost with Centurion discount (30%): 81,451,019,928 gold.
Expected event discount (35%): According to the announcements, a reduction in cost to approximately 40.7 billion gold was expected.
Actual cost during the event: 52,943,162,953 gold.
Failings on the part of the creators:
Misleading: The announcement of a 35% discount suggested a real cost reduction of that amount. In reality, a mechanism was used that gives a real benefit of only 24.5%, which is inconsistent with the marketing message.
Lack of transparency: Nowhere in the announcements was it stated that the discounts do not add up mathematically (additively), but are applied to already reduced amounts, which drastically changes the demand for resources.
Inability to fulfil plans: Players spent a month accumulating funds based on official data. A difference of 13 billion gold on a single building level is impossible to make up during a short event.
Expectations:
In view of the above, as an aggrieved user, I demand:
An official explanation and apology for the misleading information.
Correction of the discount mechanism to the level announced (or compensation in the form of an extension of the event with a higher multiplier).
Compensation for guilds that incurred higher costs due to unclear bonus calculation rules.
The game is based on trust between the developers and the community. A situation where an ‘event’ becomes a source of frustration rather than a benefit damages the image of the company and demotivates the most loyal players.
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You know I actually had this on the guild building calculator, then you shouted out and I changed it, now i reverted it back.
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You know I actually had this on the guild building calculator, then you shouted out and I changed it, now i reverted it back.
What a cycleI know. I'm sorry. No one expected the event to be ruined and the calculation method to be so disadvantageous for the players.
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Thank you very much for your constructive criticism and your tireless efforts to clarify matters here.
At maximum centi, 30% is deducted from the base amount. After the 35% buff has been activated, your amount is entirely correct.
So the correct answer is 52.943 .......... gold for the expansion.
I don't understand why you didn't just use the guild calculator to get the correct amount.
So if your failure to act has resulted in a lack of gold for expansion, you must not blame others.
I can only try to explain it, I can't understand it for you. -
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Thank you very much for your constructive criticism and your tireless efforts to clarify matters here.
At maximum centi, 30% is deducted from the base amount. After the 35% buff has been activated, your amount is entirely correct.
So the correct answer is 52.943 .......... gold for the expansion.
I don't understand why you didn't just use the guild calculator to get the correct amount.
So if your failure to act has resulted in a lack of gold for expansion, you must not blame others.
I can only try to explain it, I can't understand it for you.The only one to blame here is administration, there's zero information about how that event gona works?
Somehow training event calculate from the base no matter what, but guild discount works diffrent. Where's the info for that?
Don't try to make the players stupid because they need to discover everything themselvs because the administration here is for i don't know what.
There should be maked a post to apologize to the community for missinformation. A lot of guild were collecting gold to upgrade the guild, but suprise is not as it should be as always
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Thank you very much for your constructive criticism and your tireless efforts to clarify matters here.
At maximum centi, 30% is deducted from the base amount. After the 35% buff has been activated, your amount is entirely correct.
So the correct answer is 52.943 .......... gold for the expansion.
I don't understand why you didn't just use the guild calculator to get the correct amount.
So if your failure to act has resulted in a lack of gold for expansion, you must not blame others.
I can only try to explain it, I can't understand it for you.Announcement was misleading and deceptive nature.
Do it with microtransaction, and see if someone who has time and some little money just to start it, puts you in court, not you, but the company, and see what happens when deceptive trade practice meets the judge and EU consumer protection law.
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Thank you very much for your constructive criticism and your tireless efforts to clarify matters here.
At maximum centi, 30% is deducted from the base amount. After the 35% buff has been activated, your amount is entirely correct.
So the correct answer is 52.943 .......... gold for the expansion.
I don't understand why you didn't just use the guild calculator to get the correct amount.
So if your failure to act has resulted in a lack of gold for expansion, you must not blame others.
I can only try to explain it, I can't understand it for you.Could you provide examples where discounts are added rather than multiplied? You will see the difference in which method was chosen most often.
The inconsistency in the choice of method lies with the game developers. It is deliberate misrepresentation. Considering the current legal regulations, players have grounds for complaint and possible claims.
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Thank you very much for your constructive criticism and your tireless efforts to clarify matters here.
At maximum centi, 30% is deducted from the base amount. After the 35% buff has been activated, your amount is entirely correct.
So the correct answer is 52.943 .......... gold for the expansion.
I don't understand why you didn't just use the guild calculator to get the correct amount.
So if your failure to act has resulted in a lack of gold for expansion, you must not blame others.
I can only try to explain it, I can't understand it for you.Announcement was misleading and deceptive nature.
Do it with microtransaction, and see if someone who has time and some little money just to start it, puts you in court, not you, but the company, and see what happens when deceptive trade practice meets the judge and EU consumer protection law.
Lucky its not attached to any form of microtransaction.Wait a moment and see what the future brings.
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Thank you very much for your constructive criticism and your tireless efforts to clarify matters here.
At maximum centi, 30% is deducted from the base amount. After the 35% buff has been activated, your amount is entirely correct.
So the correct answer is 52.943 .......... gold for the expansion.
I don't understand why you didn't just use the guild calculator to get the correct amount.
So if your failure to act has resulted in a lack of gold for expansion, you must not blame others.
I can only try to explain it, I can't understand it for you.Could you provide examples where discounts are added rather than multiplied? You will see the difference in which method was chosen most often.
The inconsistency in the choice of method lies with the game developers. It is deliberate misrepresentation. Considering the current legal regulations, players have grounds for complaint and possible claims.
As someone who studied law, if they attached any sort of payment/microtransaction to it, or any related real currency involving system, by the post itself, any player would have a right to innitiate a claim against the company.
Multiplicative/Additive calculations need to be clearly stated, and should be pinned at event description.
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I don't understand why you didn't just use the guild calculator to get the correct amount.
Which one ?

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So be it. The event is what it is. There's no point in debating it.
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if there is no more point for discussion, we can close?
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if there is no more point for discussion, we can close?
Yes. You can close it.